no you need not go to e20

[she_dyed]

The e17 desktop is just fine when a couple of terminals is all you need ;D https://s1.postimg.org/6j24nafp7/supershot.jpg

Thank you for looking; grab this background instead---><blockquote class="imgur-embed-pub" lang="en" data-id="a/ZMqbC"><a href="http://imgur.com/ZMqbC"></a></blockquote><script async src="//s.imgur.com/min/embed.js" charset="utf-8"></script><br><br>http://imgur.com/a/ZMqbCE17 theme Ablingbling for the wall, and "Black and white and lots of colors" for the borders (both archived in freedesktop.org) vector art Butterfly acting as yeahconsole background (yeahconsole dropdown terminal can be customized after installing from synaptic) and vector art Run this way @1600 is the backdrop for another urxvt terminal. Behind that and the dropdown is lxterminal.

Now that wireless works, and music too, I guess it's time to get to work. And I guess for a lot of people, desktop icons--or the utter lack of them--are a dealbreaker. And urxvt will have to do; terminology wasn't finalized at the time when e17 "shipped"