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Title: Lumina
Post by: carlo on November 19, 2014, 04:00:17 PM
Hi all
has anyone tried Lumina?
Are there any rumors about Lumina and debian?
would Lumina be lighter than lxqt and/or trinity?
cheers
Title: Re: Lumina
Post by: drik on November 20, 2014, 09:45:46 AM
Url please ? :P
Title: Re: Lumina
Post by: way12go on November 20, 2014, 10:05:41 AM
Lumina is a lightweight, BSD licensed, standards-compliant desktop environment based upon Qt and Fluxbox. It is being developed on PC-BSD, and is being packaged for distribution on the PC-BSD package repository as well (although I believe the FreeBSD port is going to be submitted to the FreeBSD ports tree by the PC-BSD project as well).

More info:http://blog.pcbsd.org/2014/04/quick-lumina-desktop-faq/

Quotehttps://www.linuxdistrocommunity.com/u/testingte/m/lumina-desktop-test/
Title: Re: Lumina
Post by: MoroS on November 20, 2014, 12:09:47 PM
Quote from: carlo on November 19, 2014, 04:00:17 PM
Hi all
has anyone tried Lumina?
Are there any rumors about Lumina and debian?
would Lumina be lighter than lxqt and/or trinity?
cheers

That's an alpha-versioned, BSD-only desktop environment for the time being. I would say, that it's even PC-BSD-only. It would probably get naturally ported into Debian in some time (PC-BSD -> FreeBSD -> Debian kFreeBSD -> Debian GNU/Linux... that's the official path, I guess), but kFreeBSD version of Debian got axed a few weeks ago (not an official arch release anymore), so it really might take awhile.

As for us porting it into Sparky: there's a lot of reasons for NOT doing that:

Other than that it will probably be available in Sparky as soon as it reached Debian Testing.
Title: Re: Lumina
Post by: carlo on November 20, 2014, 11:01:38 PM
@Moros

woow
i wanted to try *BSD and Lumina on my old computers, but as far as i've understood it's for 64 bits only..
that's why i'm waiting here in sparky nestle ;)
so as you see.. we linux cousins are peeping on you ;)

since we're here:
why does ubuntu already have lumina, as it had lxqt, and etc?
Title: Re: Lumina
Post by: MoroS on November 20, 2014, 11:09:15 PM
Quote from: carlo on November 20, 2014, 11:01:38 PM
since we're here:
why does ubuntu already have lumina, as it had lxqt, and etc?

Well... Officially it doesn't. There's no package for that DE in the official repositories. Probably someone made the effort to build and package it on his/hers own. Sadly we don't have the time to do those things right now.
Title: Re: Lumina
Post by: carlo on November 20, 2014, 11:14:12 PM
ay ay
Goodwork and.. Godspeed ;)
thank you
Title: Re: Lumina
Post by: way12go on November 21, 2014, 01:45:26 AM
I installed JWM and created a document and named it as lumina. There you go, it's all disconnected but, I do have lumina, now. Just kidding. ;D
Title: Re: Lumina
Post by: carlo on November 21, 2014, 09:23:42 AM
Quote from: way12go on November 21, 2014, 01:45:26 AM
I installed JWM and created a document and named it as lumina. There you go, it's all disconnected but, I do have lumina, now.

you programmers! black envy!!   :'( :'( :'( :'( :'(
Title: Re: Lumina
Post by: way12go on November 21, 2014, 10:08:00 AM
I'm no programmer. I'm just a 34 year old single guy who happens to be Schizophrenic ( Horrible Mind Disorder ) currently doing Comptia A+ and N+ course. Hardware and Networking.

Code is not just programming code, it's the code that makes the World, including us - Life.
Title: Re: Lumina
Post by: carlo on November 21, 2014, 10:22:25 AM
i was joking.....
Title: Re: Lumina
Post by: way12go on November 21, 2014, 10:26:04 AM
I understand. :P
Title: Re: Lumina
Post by: pavroo on January 29, 2015, 04:33:18 PM
I tried to compile Lumina, but still a lot of problems :(
Title: Re: Lumina
Post by: MoroS on January 29, 2015, 05:03:11 PM
Quote from: pavroo on January 29, 2015, 04:33:18 PM
I tried to compile Lumina, but still a lot of problems :(

If it's available for Ubuntu, then maybe there're sources available somewhere on the LaunchPad?
Title: Re: Lumina
Post by: pavroo on January 30, 2015, 12:43:07 AM
I don't think it is, I couldn't find it.
Anyway I try to compile it again soon.
Title: Re: Lumina
Post by: way12go on January 30, 2015, 02:03:30 AM
I tried Lumina in PC-BSD but the OS is very very slow. I think I need 4 GB RAM for it.
Someone said Dragonfly BSD is the fastest OS in the World and some benchmarks conducted by phoronix says otherwise.

According to my experience...

Any distro or OS is good if you know what it takes.

As I'm a newbie Sparky is the best.

With less than 1 GB Puppylinux and Porteus 32 Mate are best.

Fortunately I've 1 GB RAM on Desktop and 2 GB on Laptop.

I'm using Sparkylinux 32 Mate no-PAE on both Desktop and Laptop and Mate version seems to be a lot better than other DEs.

I think instead of replacing Sparkylinux Gameover's LXDE with XFCE it would be good with Mate? Yeah it will take little extra RAM.

Sparkylinux Gameover with Mate?

Lumina is similar to Mate.

Mate is better or is it?

I just forgot Lumina, not used much. May be, half an hour.

Thanks.
Title: Re: Lumina
Post by: drew on January 30, 2015, 04:29:47 AM
Well Lumina is in the AUR so I had a chance to try it out on my Manjaro install, two things-- 1) It's nowhere near usable yet on Linux, I am not sure about on BSD but I could not even log out and several things just don't work yet. 2) It has HUGE potential as a lightweight qt based desktop and with time and polish I could see it going head to head with Lxqt. I really liked the way it was layed out even though half of the stuff didn't work.
Title: Re: Lumina
Post by: MoroS on January 30, 2015, 12:09:07 PM
I've searched around the repository. It seems that there is a Debian build template included.
https://github.com/pcbsd/lumina

See the readme on the bottom of the page. It seems that you're just required to:
1. Clone the git repository: git clone https://github.com/pcbsd/lumina.git
2. Go to the libLumina directory and execute: ./make-linux-distro.sh Debian (probably "Debian", if not, then "debian").
3. Get back to the main directory and run "qmake" to generate the Makefiles.
4. Run "make" to compile.
5. Normally there would be a "make install" here, but we'll probably want to modify the last steps to create a DEB package.

One note though: depending on the installed Qt version you'll either have to use the master branch (Qt5) or the 0.7.2 branch (Qt4), but the 0.7.2 doesn't have the Debian template, so using the Linux template would be required here. Personally I would go along with master and Qt5, as it has the Debian template.

EDIT: Oh yes, I forgot. To switch to a specific branch in your local repository just do: git checkout branch_name

To switch to the 0.7.2 branch use (everything while being in the repository directory) git checkout 0.7.2
To switch back to master just do git checkout master
Title: Re: Lumina
Post by: pavroo on January 30, 2015, 01:19:05 PM
Yee, I've seen that (later).
I put it down for a while until I finish with Budgie.
Title: Re: Lumina
Post by: MoroS on February 03, 2015, 12:43:06 AM
Well, that wasn't so bad. I've got Lumina compiling and running on Sparky. :)

(http://pliki.dnadesign.pl/screenshots/lumina001.png)

Full-size screenshot:
http://pliki.dnadesign.pl/screenshots/lumina001.png

It still needs polishing and I haven't tested everything yet, but it runs after the first successful compilation. :D

Still, it'll take some time before I can release packages or an ISO image with Lumina (I have some other things to attend to, so I don't have too much time right now), so please be patient. ;)
Title: Re: Lumina
Post by: pavroo on February 03, 2015, 01:17:10 AM
Cool :)
Title: Re: Lumina
Post by: way12go on February 03, 2015, 02:19:03 AM
You guys are awesome and unbelievable. Awesome effort going through to make Sparkylinux available in so many flavours.
Title: Re: Lumina
Post by: drew on February 03, 2015, 07:21:28 AM
Pretty soon you will be able to get Sparky in any desktop flavour you want  :D Are you able to log out Moro? Some things didn't work for me when I tried the package in the Arch repos. I think this desktop will be similar to Lxqt--lightweight qt based, built on top of fluxbox (lxqt is built on openbox). But yeah, the favorites system and the zfs snapshots feature look really cool.
Title: Re: Lumina
Post by: MoroS on February 03, 2015, 11:44:25 AM
Quote from: drew on February 03, 2015, 07:21:28 AM
Pretty soon you will be able to get Sparky in any desktop flavour you want  :D Are you able to log out Moro? Some things didn't work for me when I tried the package in the Arch repos. I think this desktop will be similar to Lxqt--lightweight qt based, built on top of fluxbox (lxqt is built on openbox). But yeah, the favorites system and the zfs snapshots feature look really cool.

I was able to log out, but I wasn't able to shut down (it did a logout :P ). The first impression is that I don't like that Fluxbox integration. It'll take some time to make a consistent theme for this, as it's a GTK(Fluxbox)/Qt(Lumina) crossover. Luckily Lumina only launches Fluxbox and is not code-related to it, so there's a possibility to exchange Fluxbox for something else. As I try to make it workable (and lookable ;) ), I'll look at the possibilities of using a WM other than Fluxbox (don't get me wrong: I like Fluxbox, I just don't think it fits Lumina enough).
Title: Re: Lumina
Post by: carlo on February 06, 2015, 01:27:48 PM
who's heavier: lumina or lxqt?
Title: Re: Lumina
Post by: drew on February 06, 2015, 04:19:01 PM
They are similar in terms of resource usage. Actually, you know what reminds me a lot of Lumina? This AntiX distro with IceWM I've been trying out. It's built on Fluxbox and is very reminiscent of it. The thing about Lumina is although I like where they are going with it, it isn't really functional yet at least on Linux from what I could see, it will probably be awhile before we can build anything with it.

(http://i59.tinypic.com/2wq8qoi.jpg)