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#11
Applications / Re: Bengali / Bangla / Indic L...
Last post by duststuff - April 10, 2024, 06:07:32 PMBTW, practically speaking, I've 'solved' my problem by switching to using the font 'Tiro Bangla', which so far seems to be working other than a few odd-looking things in its Latin / Roman (i.e. English) characters. It also has the added bonus of having its Bangla script and English script on the same point scale as far as size, whereas other fonts I've used were often off by about two points, so you could spend a lot of time adjusting the size of the text depending on how mixed the two languages were in what you were composing.
All that being said, I just mention it in case others find it helpful, but I'm not going to mark this as solved yet, since my actual questions are related to what packages and/or settings and/or anything else would cause this difference of behavior between two OS's based on the same distro.
All that being said, I just mention it in case others find it helpful, but I'm not going to mark this as solved yet, since my actual questions are related to what packages and/or settings and/or anything else would cause this difference of behavior between two OS's based on the same distro.
#12
Applications / Re: Bengali / Bangla / Indic L...
Last post by duststuff - April 10, 2024, 05:56:44 PMQuote from: AxL on April 10, 2024, 05:24:13 PMBTW just out of curiosity, I searched the internet to see what the 'Bangla' font looked like. And surprisingly, I was able to see it without any apparent problem.
Actually, I'm not surprised since most modern Unicode fonts would be able to handle displaying Bangla script (although sometimes broken here or there if they weren't specifically created for Bangla), plus lots of other non-Roman languages' scripts as well -- that's one of the advantages of Unicode, that so many more glyphs (characters) can be included in a font.
And to make it practical for my use case, I find it curious that the problems I've faced will show up in my email client (Claws Mail) as well as the default text editor of Sparky 7 (Mousepad), but everything works fine in the same email client on LMDE 6 and in its default text editor (xed), once again noting that both of these distros are based on Debian 12.
Also, not sure why, but I'm not able to see the images (other than emojis) you included in your post.
#13
Applications / Re: Bengali / Bangla / Indic L...
Last post by duststuff - April 10, 2024, 05:47:51 PMQuote from: AxL on April 10, 2024, 04:59:16 PMCheck this link, to see if it helps you to solve the problem you are suffering from:
Thanks, AxL. Yeah, I had seen that page in my searching and the accepted answer there is what I referred to as probably the easiest solution -- just use a different font that doesn't have that issue. The thing I'm curious about though and what prompted me to start this topic is why a font like Liberation Sans (as well as default system fonts, and probably others that I didn't test) has this issue in Sparky 7 but doesn't have it in Linux Mint Debian 6, since they are both based on Debian 12. My best guess is that it has to do with what packages are installed or one or more language-related settings, but I have no idea what those would be.
#14
Applications / Re: Bengali / Bangla / Indic L...
Last post by AxL - April 10, 2024, 05:24:13 PMBTW just out of curiosity, I searched the internet to see what the 'Bangla' font looked like. And surprisingly, I was able to see it without any apparent problem.
In this case using SeaMonkey. And you can see it, in this image:
And finally, these are most of the fonts that I have installed on my system
In this case using SeaMonkey. And you can see it, in this image:
And finally, these are most of the fonts that I have installed on my system
#15
Applications / Re: Bengali / Bangla / Indic L...
Last post by AxL - April 10, 2024, 04:59:16 PMQuote from: duststuff on April 07, 2024, 08:56:18 AMWith a Sparky 7.3 Xfce system, I've run into a problem of some Bangla ligatures* not rendering correctly when using a non-Bangla font like 'Liberation Sans'. From what I can tell, it's possible there are a variety of reasons for this type of font rendering problem and also a variety of solutions. Probably the easiest solution for some use cases is to just use a Bangla font. However, my use case is typing both English and Bangla in the same file. Thus, it is more efficient to be able to use the same font for both languages, and so far I've found that this works best with non-Bangla fonts. While using Linux Mint Debian Edition (LMDE) 6 (Xfce) (based on Debian 12 like Sparky 7) I had settled on the Liberation Sans font as the best solution I knew of. However, I'm migrating from LMDE 6 to Sparky 7, and I've noticed that for some reason this font does not work in the same way with Sparky -- it's broken in the sense of some ligatures not appearing correctly or appearing as just representations of the individual keystrokes rather than converting into the appropriate ligature. I am using the same input method (ibus) and keyboard layout (Bangla m17n 'Unijoy') on both systems.
* Ligatures are sometimes referred to as conjunct letters or combined letters, and are a one-character representation produced by two or more keystrokes (eg. a single character for the 'English' consonant cluster 'spr').
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Check this link, to see if it helps you to solve the problem you are suffering from: - Fix broken Bangla font in GNU/Linux
Cheers !!
#16
Installation / Re: public key is not availabl...
Last post by duststuff - April 08, 2024, 01:03:08 AMHey David, glad to hear you got it working. :-) It would be great if you would edit the title of this topic / thread to include '[Solved]' at the beginning or end, as this may help others who are searching the forum for a similar problem.
#17
Suggestions / Re: Text Installer with Consol...
Last post by djringjr - April 07, 2024, 11:49:53 PMI made a list of the applications installed from that system and was trying to install those packages. I figured out. Except for getting the keys in the keyring, I did this (I forgot to write the steps down.) I think it was sudo apt-get add [keyid]
To get an installed package list:
dpkg --get-selections > ~/Package.list
sudo cp -R /etc/apt/sources.list* ~/
sudo apt-key exportall > ~/Repo.keys
To restore the package list on my talking Debian.
sudo apt-key add ~/Repo.keys
sudo cp -R ~/sources.listtc/apt/
sudo apt-get update
sudo apt-get install dselect
sudo dselect update
sudo apt-get dselect-upgrade
BINGO!
Everything works!
Thank you,
David
To get an installed package list:
dpkg --get-selections > ~/Package.list
sudo cp -R /etc/apt/sources.list* ~/
sudo apt-key exportall > ~/Repo.keys
To restore the package list on my talking Debian.
sudo apt-key add ~/Repo.keys
sudo cp -R ~/sources.listtc/apt/
sudo apt-get update
sudo apt-get install dselect
sudo dselect update
sudo apt-get dselect-upgrade
BINGO!
Everything works!
Thank you,
David
#18
Installation / Re: public key is not availabl...
Last post by djringjr - April 07, 2024, 11:48:07 PMQuote from: duststuff on April 06, 2024, 05:51:28 AMSomeone may be able to help you if you provide more information. For instance, what were you doing or trying to do when you got this message? I think there may be a signing key for verifying Sparky isos and perhaps a different one that is used by system upgrade tools and repos. On the Sparky wiki, there are instructions about verifying isos, but the key ID referenced there is different than the one you posted.
If this key you've referenced is one that is accessed online rather than locally on your system, then I guess there's always the chance that the server your system is trying to access is temporarily down; if so, then it might work as expected later if you try again.
When you're looking for help on this or other similar forums, it would be good for you to mention what version of OS (i.e. Sparky here) you're using along with the window manager (WM) and/or desktop environment (DE). You can use the command-line tool 'inxi' and its various options to generate general / specific / relevant information about your system that you can then copy from the terminal (Shift + Ctrl + C) and paste into your post here using the code markers for easier readability. (Hover over the icons above where you're writing till you see the one marked 'Code', click on that and it should give you code markers like this: "code""/code" except with bracket markers in place of the quote markers. Then just paste the inxi output from the terminal between the code markers so it will show up correctly [you can use the preview option to check it's working as expected].) The 'inxi' tool has lots of different options -- here is just one example: 'inxi -Frz'. The '-F' option includes basic information for quite a few parts of your system, the '-r' option provides details on your repos, and the '-z' option filters out some things for privacy / security, which is probably a good idea when posting in public spaces like this forum.
I am trying to take a minimal installation of Debian which includes espeakup and brltty for blind access. I'm using the latest Debian, and I want to get the Sparky Linux repos on this system.
I copied the /etc/apt/* files to a USB stick from a working Sparky Linux system.
I made a list of the applications installed from that system and was trying to install those packages. I figured out. Except for getting the keys in the keyring, I did this (I forgot to write the steps down.)
To get an installed package list:
dpkg --get-selections > ~/Package.list
sudo cp -R /etc/apt/sources.list* ~/
sudo apt-key exportall > ~/Repo.keys
To restore the package list on my talking Debian.
sudo apt-key add ~/Repo.keys
sudo cp -R ~/sources.listtc/apt/
sudo apt-get update
sudo apt-get install dselect
sudo dselect update
sudo apt-get dselect-upgrade
BINGO!
Everything works!
Thank you,
David
#19
Applications / Bengali / Bangla / Indic Ligat...
Last post by duststuff - April 07, 2024, 08:56:18 AMWith a Sparky 7.3 Xfce system, I've run into a problem of some Bangla ligatures* not rendering correctly when using a non-Bangla font like 'Liberation Sans'. From what I can tell, it's possible there are a variety of reasons for this type of font rendering problem and also a variety of solutions. Probably the easiest solution for some use cases is to just use a Bangla font. However, my use case is typing both English and Bangla in the same file. Thus, it is more efficient to be able to use the same font for both languages, and so far I've found that this works best with non-Bangla fonts. While using Linux Mint Debian Edition (LMDE) 6 (Xfce) (based on Debian 12 like Sparky 7) I had settled on the Liberation Sans font as the best solution I knew of. However, I'm migrating from LMDE 6 to Sparky 7, and I've noticed that for some reason this font does not work in the same way with Sparky -- it's broken in the sense of some ligatures not appearing correctly or appearing as just representations of the individual keystrokes rather than converting into the appropriate ligature. I am using the same input method (ibus) and keyboard layout (Bangla m17n 'Unijoy') on both systems.
* Ligatures are sometimes referred to as conjunct letters or combined letters, and are a one-character representation produced by two or more keystrokes (eg. a single character for the 'English' consonant cluster 'spr').
One idea I had is that perhaps there are one or more packages installed in LMDE that are not installed in Sparky. So I did some searches to try to come up with a list of all the relevant packages I could think of, but when I compared them, each system had them all installed. Here's the list I came up with: gir1.2-ibus-1.0 ibus ibus-data ibus-gtk ibus-gtk3 ibus-gtk4 ibus-m17n im-config libibus-1.0-5 python3-ibus-1.0 libgraphite2-3 libgraphite2-dev libm17n-0 m17n-db gir1.2-pango-1.0 libotf1 libpango-1.0-0 libpango1.0-dev libpangocairo-1.0-0 libpangoft2-1.0-0 libpangoxft-1.0-0 . Any ideas on other packages that might be relevant that I should check out? (I installed 'task-bengali', but that didn't help with this. I'm pretty sure 'task-bengali-desktop' wouldn't help either.)
The other idea I had is that the two systems have different settings related to languages, fonts, etc. In LMDE 6 (and other Ubuntu-based distros I've used) there is often a Region & Language settings section in the apps menu and this often prompts you to install extra language-related packages, if necessary, and might also have some options related to other types of language / fonts settings. However, I haven't been able to find any type of language-related settings in Sparky. Any ideas on where I could find and potentially edit these types of settings?
For now, because the need is time-sensitive, I'll probably look for another font that might be able to handle both English and Bangla without this problem, and if that fails, will revert back to using a Bangla font. But I thought I'd go ahead and post this on here in case anyone has any ideas about what I'm missing in regards to trouble-shooting this.
* Ligatures are sometimes referred to as conjunct letters or combined letters, and are a one-character representation produced by two or more keystrokes (eg. a single character for the 'English' consonant cluster 'spr').
One idea I had is that perhaps there are one or more packages installed in LMDE that are not installed in Sparky. So I did some searches to try to come up with a list of all the relevant packages I could think of, but when I compared them, each system had them all installed. Here's the list I came up with: gir1.2-ibus-1.0 ibus ibus-data ibus-gtk ibus-gtk3 ibus-gtk4 ibus-m17n im-config libibus-1.0-5 python3-ibus-1.0 libgraphite2-3 libgraphite2-dev libm17n-0 m17n-db gir1.2-pango-1.0 libotf1 libpango-1.0-0 libpango1.0-dev libpangocairo-1.0-0 libpangoft2-1.0-0 libpangoxft-1.0-0 . Any ideas on other packages that might be relevant that I should check out? (I installed 'task-bengali', but that didn't help with this. I'm pretty sure 'task-bengali-desktop' wouldn't help either.)
The other idea I had is that the two systems have different settings related to languages, fonts, etc. In LMDE 6 (and other Ubuntu-based distros I've used) there is often a Region & Language settings section in the apps menu and this often prompts you to install extra language-related packages, if necessary, and might also have some options related to other types of language / fonts settings. However, I haven't been able to find any type of language-related settings in Sparky. Any ideas on where I could find and potentially edit these types of settings?
For now, because the need is time-sensitive, I'll probably look for another font that might be able to handle both English and Bangla without this problem, and if that fails, will revert back to using a Bangla font. But I thought I'd go ahead and post this on here in case anyone has any ideas about what I'm missing in regards to trouble-shooting this.
#20
Installation / VirtualBox guest additions
Last post by grahamperrin - April 06, 2024, 07:34:18 PMSince the link above is 404, where can I find advice on installing the guest additions alone?
I do see VirtualBox, but not its (separate) additions, in aptus.
I do see VirtualBox, but not its (separate) additions, in aptus.