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Password requirements just to install?

Started by nevertheless, October 24, 2025, 05:25:15 PM

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nevertheless

I've used sparky before, and wanted to install the latest stable. I couldn't proceed past a certain point where it was forcing me to choose a password that is well beyond the sufficiently-obfuscated password I needed to use for what I'm doing.

I don't recall it being like that before. This felt very unwelcome, burdensome. I tried 3-4, and then gave up because I wasn't going to go find a pen and piece of paper to write down whatever I was being forced to concoct just to install the OS for a few days to look around, see how it is today.

I strongly encourage that this hurdle be turned off. Let people do what they want to do. No other distro does this (that I've seen. I recall Linux Lite doing it a number of years ago. I think it was an option that was enabled, and they didn't realize it. Hopefully this was a similar mistake.). I'm all for better passwords, but not forced on me.

AxL


Quote from: nevertheless on October 24, 2025, 05:25:15 PM[....]
I don't recall it being like that before. This felt very unwelcome, burdensome. I tried 3-4, and then gave up because I wasn't going to go find a pen and piece of paper to write down whatever I was being forced to concoct just to install the OS for a few days to look around, see how it is today.
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Are you serious, lad? 

Because your complaint is absolutely ridiculous.
 It is simply highly recommended, to use a 'Strong Password' to maintain/enhance correct security.

Also, don't you know that you can change passwords whenever you want ...??
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nevertheless

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Quote from: AxL on October 25, 2025, 04:43:56 PMIt is simply highly recommended,

I don't mind recommendations. It was not letting me continue with the install until I chose a password it agreed with.

That seems overbearing, doesn't it? As you said, I can change the password after install. So, why be so controlling during the install?

It sounds like you're saying it lets you do what you want. But, that wasn't my experience.

[Edit: My original post was using Sparky stable lxqt. I just tried Sparky stable xfce thinking perhaps I was confused in my first experience, or it was limited to just that edition. I got the same thing. It won't let me proceed to install until I satisfy its password requirement.

The way you spoke to me, it sounds like that's the last thing you'd expect it to do (that I was complaining about a mere suggestion about password strength). I assume this change wasn't intentional. I just wanted to report it. As I said in my first try: I've seen this once before. It was Linux Lite, and they said it was a calamares setting they weren't aware of, or got turned on by accident.

It would be more friendly if Sparky could go back to just suggesting strength like other distros using calamares. This is the only one I've run into that won't let you proceed with the install until your password is sufficiently strong. Not only does this seem antithetical to the philosophy of linux, but as Axl pointed out: I can change it later to be anything I want. Why can't I just do that during install? It doesn't make sense. It's a hoop to jump through that isn't friendly, inviting, etc. I only pointed it out because I think Sparky is a good distro, and this could be a turn off for people. It is for me.]

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