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<SOLVED> Sparky won't install at all

Started by Erwin, October 12, 2020, 06:19:18 PM

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Erwin

I was running Sparky from USB which was fine so I decided to install it.
Even I tried several times and ways but it won't install. Advanced installer crashed after install during boot and the GUI install hang the system at 43% and crashed with a kernel panic over and over again. It is too bad since I liked what I saw from the Live USB.
Anybody ideas how to work around this?


pavroo

Your message says not much.
How big root partition you have for installing Sparky?
What Sparky version, arch, etc.

Anyway, you can try to launch the installer from the command line:
sudo calamares -d
and save full output from the terminal if problem still exist, and then paste it to forums.

It's the same with the advanced installer, the output from a terminal of:
sudo sparky-installer

plus both installers logs located at /var/log/...
Nothing is easy as it looks. Danielle Steel

Erwin

Partition size is approx 235 GB, swap 1,5 GB like the installer creates.
Installing Sparky 2020.09 Mate 64 bit.
I will try to start calamares from the command line and see what it does.
Saving the output of the terminal will not work since the whole system freezes and only solution to get it running again is power off/power on.

lami07

Have you verified ISO integrity with sha256sum prior to installation?
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Erwin

#4
Yes I did:

# sha256sum:
4b56e408c6691bf5ca057185211c916da5a3624a2b17875a5f4dbabf513c59eb  sparkylinux-2020.09-x86_64-mate.iso
4b56e408c6691bf5ca057185211c916da5a3624a2b17875a5f4dbabf513c59eb


This was the terminal Calamares output when I started to install beofre it hang:

07:28:46 [2]: QString Calamares::_stylesheet(const QDir&)
    WARNING:The branding component "/usr/share/calamares/branding/sparky" does not ship stylesheet.qss.
07:28:46 [6]: void CalamaresApplication::initView()
    STARTUP: CalamaresWindow created; loadModules started
07:28:46 [6]: void Calamares::Module::loadConfigurationFile(const QString&)
    Loaded module configuration "/usr/share/calamares/modules/welcome.conf"
07:28:46 [6]: void Config::initLanguages()
    Matching locale QLocale(English, Latin, United States)
07:28:46 [6]:  ..  Matched with index 10 "en_US"
07:28:46 [6]:  ..  Loaded QRC translation "tz_" "en_US"
07:28:46 [6]:  ..  Loaded QRC translation "calamares_" "en_US"
07:28:46 [6]: void Config::setLocaleIndex(int)
    Index 10 Selected locale QLocale(English, Latin, United States)
07:28:46 [6]:  ..  Loaded QRC translation "tz_" "en_US"
07:28:46 [6]:  ..  Loaded QRC translation "calamares_" "en_US"
07:28:46 [2]: CalamaresUtils::GeoIP::Handler::Handler(const QString&, const QString&, const QString&)
    WARNING:GeoIP style *none* does not do anything.
07:28:46 [6]: virtual void Calamares::ViewModule::loadSelf()
    ViewModule "welcome@welcome" loading complete.
07:28:47 [6]: void Calamares::Module::loadConfigurationFile(const QString&)
    Loaded module configuration "/usr/share/calamares/modules/locale.conf"
07:28:47 [6]: virtual void Calamares::ViewModule::loadSelf()
    ViewModule "locale@locale" loading complete.
07:28:47 [6]: void Calamares::Module::loadConfigurationFile(const QString&)
    Loaded module configuration "/usr/share/calamares/modules/keyboard.conf"
07:28:49 [6]: virtual void Calamares::ViewModule::loadSelf()
    ViewModule "keyboard@keyboard" loading complete.
07:28:49 [6]: void Calamares::Module::loadConfigurationFile(const QString&)
    Loaded module configuration "/usr/share/calamares/modules/partition.conf"
07:28:49 [6]: CalamaresUtils::Partition::InternalManager::InternalManager()
    KPMCore backend starting ..
07:28:49 [8]: Loaded backend plugin:  "pmlibpartedbackendplugin"
07:28:49 [6]:  ..  Backend @ 0x563c81c9bc40 "pmlibpartedbackendplugin" "1"
07:28:49 [6]: CalamaresUtils::Partition::KPMManager::KPMManager()
    KPMManager 1 created.
07:28:49 [6]: virtual void PartitionViewStep::setConfigurationMap(const QVariantMap&)
    Setting firmwareType to "bios"
07:28:49 [2]: virtual void PartitionViewStep::setConfigurationMap(const QVariantMap&)
    WARNING:Partition-module does not support *userSwapChoices* setting "file"
07:28:49 [2]: virtual void PartitionViewStep::setConfigurationMap(const QVariantMap&)
    WARNING:Partition-module does not support *userSwapChoices* setting "reuse"
07:28:49 [6]: QString PartUtils::findFS(QString, FileSystem::Type*)
    Found filesystem "ext4"
07:28:49 [6]: virtual void PartitionViewStep::setConfigurationMap(const QVariantMap&)
    Partition-module setting *defaultFileSystemType* "ext4"
07:28:49 [6]: QString PartUtils::findFS(QString, FileSystem::Type*)
    Found filesystem "ext4"
07:28:49 [6]: virtual void Calamares::ViewModule::loadSelf()
    ViewModule "partition@partition" loading complete.
07:28:49 [6]: void Calamares::Module::loadConfigurationFile(const QString&)
    Loaded module configuration "/usr/share/calamares/modules/users.conf"
07:28:49 [2]: void UsersPage::addPasswordCheck(const QString&, const QVariant&)
    WARNING:Unknown password-check key "libpwquality"
07:28:49 [6]: virtual void Calamares::ViewModule::loadSelf()
    ViewModule "users@users" loading complete.
07:28:49 [6]: virtual void Calamares::ViewModule::loadSelf()
    ViewModule "summary@summary" loading complete.
07:28:49 [6]: void Calamares::ModuleManager::loadModules()
    Module "partition@partition" already loaded.
07:28:50 [6]: Calamares::ExecutionViewStep::ExecutionViewStep(QObject*)
    QML import paths:
     "/usr/share/calamares/qml"
     "/usr/bin"
     "qrc:/qt-project.org/imports"
     "/usr/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/qt5/qml"
07:28:50 [6]: void Calamares::Module::loadConfigurationFile(const QString&)
    Loaded module configuration "/usr/share/calamares/modules/mount.conf"
07:28:50 [6]: void Calamares::Module::loadConfigurationFile(const QString&)
    Loaded module configuration "/usr/share/calamares/modules/unpackfs.conf"
07:28:50 [6]: void Calamares::Module::loadConfigurationFile(const QString&)
    Loaded module configuration "/usr/share/calamares/modules/machineid.conf"
07:28:50 [6]: virtual void Calamares::CppJobModule::loadSelf()
    CppJobModule "machineid@machineid" loading complete.
07:28:50 [6]: void Calamares::Module::loadConfigurationFile(const QString&)
    Loaded module configuration "/usr/share/calamares/modules/fstab.conf"
07:28:50 [6]: void Calamares::ModuleManager::loadModules()
    Module "locale@locale" already loaded.
07:28:50 [6]: void Calamares::ModuleManager::loadModules()
    Module "keyboard@keyboard" already loaded.
07:28:50 [6]: void Calamares::ModuleManager::loadModules()
    Module "users@users" already loaded.
07:28:50 [6]: void Calamares::Module::loadConfigurationFile(const QString&)
    Loaded module configuration "/usr/share/calamares/modules/displaymanager.conf"
07:28:50 [6]: void Calamares::Module::loadConfigurationFile(const QString&)
    Loaded module configuration "/usr/share/calamares/modules/services-systemd.conf"
07:28:50 [6]: void Calamares::Module::loadConfigurationFile(const QString&)
    No config file for "grubefiinstall" found anywhere at
     "/home/live/src/modules/grubefiinstall/grubefiinstall.conf"
     "/etc/calamares/modules/grubefiinstall.conf"
     "/usr/share/calamares/modules/grubefiinstall.conf"
07:28:50 [6]: void Calamares::Module::loadConfigurationFile(const QString&)
    Loaded module configuration "/usr/share/calamares/modules/packages.conf"
07:28:50 [6]: virtual void Calamares::CppJobModule::loadSelf()
    CppJobModule "luksbootkeyfile@luksbootkeyfile" loading complete.
07:28:50 [6]: void Calamares::Module::loadConfigurationFile(const QString&)
    No config file for "sparkyhooks" found anywhere at
     "/home/live/src/modules/sparkyhooks/sparkyhooks.conf"
     "/etc/calamares/modules/sparkyhooks.conf"
     "/usr/share/calamares/modules/sparkyhooks.conf"
07:28:50 [6]: void Calamares::Module::loadConfigurationFile(const QString&)
    No config file for "securebootinstall" found anywhere at
     "/home/live/src/modules/securebootinstall/securebootinstall.conf"
     "/etc/calamares/modules/securebootinstall.conf"
     "/usr/share/calamares/modules/securebootinstall.conf"
07:28:50 [6]: void Calamares::Module::loadConfigurationFile(const QString&)
    Loaded module configuration "/usr/share/calamares/modules/initramfs.conf"
07:28:50 [6]: virtual void Calamares::CppJobModule::loadSelf()
    CppJobModule "initramfs@initramfs" loading complete.
07:28:50 [6]: void Calamares::Module::loadConfigurationFile(const QString&)
    Loaded module configuration "/usr/share/calamares/modules/grubcfg.conf"
07:28:50 [6]: void Calamares::Module::loadConfigurationFile(const QString&)
    Loaded module configuration "/usr/share/calamares/modules/bootloader.conf"
07:28:50 [6]: void Calamares::Module::loadConfigurationFile(const QString&)
    No config file for "securebootfix" found anywhere at
     "/home/live/src/modules/securebootfix/securebootfix.conf"
     "/etc/calamares/modules/securebootfix.conf"
     "/usr/share/calamares/modules/securebootfix.conf"
07:28:50 [6]: void Calamares::Module::loadConfigurationFile(const QString&)
    Loaded module configuration "/usr/share/calamares/modules/umount.conf"
07:28:50 [6]: void Calamares::Module::loadConfigurationFile(const QString&)
    Loaded module configuration "/usr/share/calamares/modules/finished.conf"
07:28:50 [6]: virtual void Calamares::ViewModule::loadSelf()
    ViewModule "finished@finished" loading complete.
07:28:50 [6]: void CalamaresApplication::initViewSteps()
    STARTUP: loadModules for all modules done
07:28:50 [6]: void Calamares::ModuleManager::checkRequirements()
    Checking module requirements ..
07:28:51 [6]: void CalamaresApplication::initViewSteps()
    STARTUP: Window now visible and ProgressTreeView populated
07:28:51 [6]:  ..  8 view steps loaded.
07:28:52 [6]: KeyboardPage::onListVariantCurrentItemChanged(QListWidgetItem*, QListWidgetItem*)::<lambda()>
    xkbmap selection changed to:  "us" - ""
07:28:53 [6]: void Calamares::RequirementsChecker::reportProgress()
    Remaining modules: 27
     "bootloader"
     "displaymanager"
     "finished"
     "fstab"
     "grubcfg"
     "grubefiinstall"
     "hwclock"
     "initramfs"
     "initramfscfg"
     "keyboard"
     "locale"
     "localecfg"
     "luksbootkeyfile"
     "machineid"
     "mount"
     "networkcfg"
     "packages"
     "partition"
     "securebootfix"
     "securebootinstall"
     "services-systemd"
     "sparkyhooks"
     "summary"
     "umount"
     "unpackfs"
     "users"
     "welcome"
07:28:54 [6]: void Calamares::RequirementsChecker::reportProgress()
    Remaining modules: 27
     "bootloader"
     "displaymanager"
     "finished"
     "fstab"
     "grubcfg"
     "grubefiinstall"
     "hwclock"
     "initramfs"
     "initramfscfg"
     "keyboard"
     "locale"
     "localecfg"
     "luksbootkeyfile"
     "machineid"
     "mount"
     "networkcfg"
     "packages"
     "partition"
     "securebootfix"
     "securebootinstall"
     "services-systemd"
     "sparkyhooks"
     "summary"
     "umount"
     "unpackfs"
     "users"
     "welcome"
07:28:54 [0]: blkid: unknown file system type  ""  on  "/dev/sda1"
07:28:55 [0]: blkid: unknown file system type  ""  on  "/dev/sda3"
07:28:55 [8]: getting smart status failed for  "/dev/sdb" :  Operation not supported
07:28:55 [6]: void Calamares::RequirementsChecker::reportProgress()
    Remaining modules: 27
     "bootloader"
     "displaymanager"
     "finished"
     "fstab"
     "grubcfg"
     "grubefiinstall"
     "hwclock"
     "initramfs"
     "initramfscfg"
     "keyboard"
     "locale"
     "localecfg"
     "luksbootkeyfile"
     "machineid"
     "mount"
     "networkcfg"
     "packages"
     "partition"
     "securebootfix"
     "securebootinstall"
     "services-systemd"
     "sparkyhooks"
     "summary"
     "umount"
     "unpackfs"
     "users"
     "welcome"
07:28:55 [6]: QList<Device*> PartUtils::getDevices(PartUtils::DeviceType, qint64)
    Removing unsuitable devices: 2 candidates.
07:28:56 [6]:  ..  Removing device with iso9660 filesystem (probably a CD) on it "/dev/sdb"
07:28:56 [6]: void PartitionCoreModule::doInit()
    LIST OF DETECTED DEVICES:
07:28:56 [6]: void PartitionCoreModule::doInit()
    node capacity name prettyName
07:28:56 [6]: void PartitionCoreModule::doInit()
    "/dev/sda" 250059217920 "ATA MAXTOR STM325082" "ATA MAXTOR STM325082 – 232.89 GiB (/dev/sda)"
07:28:56 [6]:  ..  1 devices detected.
07:28:57 [6]: void Calamares::RequirementsChecker::reportProgress()
    Remaining modules: 27
     "bootloader"
     "displaymanager"
     "finished"
     "fstab"
     "grubcfg"
     "grubefiinstall"
     "hwclock"
     "initramfs"
     "initramfscfg"
     "keyboard"
     "locale"
     "localecfg"
     "luksbootkeyfile"
     "machineid"
     "mount"
     "networkcfg"
     "packages"
     "partition"
     "securebootfix"
     "securebootinstall"
     "services-systemd"
     "sparkyhooks"
     "summary"
     "umount"
     "unpackfs"
     "users"
     "welcome"
07:28:58 [6]: void Calamares::RequirementsChecker::reportProgress()
    Remaining modules: 27
     "bootloader"
     "displaymanager"
     "finished"
     "fstab"
     "grubcfg"
     "grubefiinstall"
     "hwclock"
     "initramfs"
     "initramfscfg"
     "keyboard"
     "locale"
     "localecfg"
     "luksbootkeyfile"
     "machineid"
     "mount"
     "networkcfg"
     "packages"
     "partition"
     "securebootfix"
     "securebootinstall"
     "services-systemd"
     "sparkyhooks"
     "summary"
     "umount"
     "unpackfs"
     "users"
     "welcome"
07:28:59 [6]: void Calamares::RequirementsChecker::reportProgress()
    Remaining modules: 27
     "bootloader"
     "displaymanager"
     "finished"
     "fstab"
     "grubcfg"
     "grubefiinstall"
     "hwclock"
     "initramfs"
     "initramfscfg"
     "keyboard"
     "locale"
     "localecfg"
     "luksbootkeyfile"
     "machineid"
     "mount"
     "networkcfg"
     "packages"
     "partition"
     "securebootfix"
     "securebootinstall"
     "services-systemd"
     "sparkyhooks"
     "summary"
     "umount"
     "unpackfs"
     "users"
     "welcome"
07:29:00 [6]: void Calamares::RequirementsChecker::reportProgress()
    Remaining modules: 27
     "bootloader"
     "displaymanager"
     "finished"
     "fstab"
     "grubcfg"
     "grubefiinstall"
     "hwclock"
     "initramfs"
     "initramfscfg"
     "keyboard"
     "locale"
     "localecfg"
     "luksbootkeyfile"
     "machineid"
     "mount"
     "networkcfg"
     "packages"
     "partition"
     "securebootfix"
     "securebootinstall"
     "services-systemd"
     "sparkyhooks"
     "summary"
     "umount"
     "unpackfs"
     "users"
     "welcome"
07:29:01 [6]: OsproberEntryList PartUtils::runOsprober(PartitionCoreModule*)
    os-prober gave no output.
07:29:01 [6]: void BootLoaderModel::init(const QList<Device*>&)
    BLM::init with 1 devices 0 rows
07:29:01 [6]: void Calamares::RequirementsChecker::addCheckedRequirements(Calamares::Module*)
    Got 0 requirement results from "bootloader"
07:29:01 [6]: void Calamares::RequirementsChecker::addCheckedRequirements(Calamares::Module*)
    Got 0 requirement results from "displaymanager"
07:29:01 [6]: void Calamares::RequirementsChecker::addCheckedRequirements(Calamares::Module*)
    Got 0 requirement results from "finished"
07:29:01 [6]: void Calamares::RequirementsChecker::addCheckedRequirements(Calamares::Module*)
    Got 0 requirement results from "fstab"
07:29:01 [6]: void Calamares::RequirementsChecker::addCheckedRequirements(Calamares::Module*)
    Got 0 requirement results from "grubcfg"
07:29:01 [6]: void Calamares::RequirementsChecker::addCheckedRequirements(Calamares::Module*)
    Got 0 requirement results from "grubefiinstall"
07:29:01 [6]: void Calamares::RequirementsChecker::addCheckedRequirements(Calamares::Module*)
    Got 0 requirement results from "hwclock"
07:29:01 [6]: void Calamares::RequirementsChecker::addCheckedRequirements(Calamares::Module*)
    Got 0 requirement results from "initramfs"
07:29:01 [6]: void Calamares::RequirementsChecker::addCheckedRequirements(Calamares::Module*)
    Got 0 requirement results from "initramfscfg"
07:29:01 [6]: void Calamares::RequirementsChecker::addCheckedRequirements(Calamares::Module*)
    Got 0 requirement results from "keyboard"
07:29:01 [6]: void ChoicePage::updateDeviceStatePreview()
    Updating partitioning state widgets.
07:29:01 [6]: void ChoicePage::setupActions()
    Setting up actions for "/dev/sda" with 0 entries.
07:29:01 [6]: bool PartUtils::canBeResized(Partition*)
    Checking if "/dev/sda1" can be resized.
07:29:01 [6]:  ..  NO, filesystem "unknown" does not support resize.
07:29:01 [6]: bool PartUtils::canBeReplaced(Partition*)
    Checking if "/dev/sda1" can be replaced.
07:29:01 [6]:  ..  NO, insufficient storage
     Required  storage B: 6442450944 "(5.5GiB)"
     Available storage B: 262144 "(0GiB)"
07:29:01 [6]: bool PartUtils::canBeResized(Partition*)
    Checking if "/dev/sda2" can be resized.
07:29:01 [6]:  ..  NO, filesystem "zfs" does not support resize.
07:29:01 [6]: bool PartUtils::canBeReplaced(Partition*)
    Checking if "/dev/sda2" can be replaced.
07:29:01 [6]: bool PartUtils::canBeReplaced(Partition*)
    Partition "/dev/sda2" authorized for replace install.
07:29:01 [6]:  ..  contains replaceable "/dev/sda2"
07:29:01 [6]: bool PartUtils::canBeResized(Partition*)
    Checking if "/dev/sda3" can be resized.
07:29:01 [6]:  ..  NO, filesystem "unknown" does not support resize.
07:29:01 [6]: bool PartUtils::canBeReplaced(Partition*)
    Checking if "/dev/sda3" can be replaced.
07:29:01 [6]:  ..  NO, insufficient storage
     Required  storage B: 6442450944 "(5.5GiB)"
     Available storage B: 2680160256 "(2GiB)"
07:29:01 [6]: bool PartUtils::canBeResized(Partition*)
    Checking if "/dev/sda" can be resized.
07:29:01 [6]:  ..  NO, filesystem "unknown" does not support resize.
07:29:01 [6]: bool PartUtils::canBeReplaced(Partition*)
    Checking if "/dev/sda" can be replaced.
07:29:01 [6]:  ..  NO, insufficient storage
     Required  storage B: 6442450944 "(5.5GiB)"
     Available storage B: 5128192 "(0GiB)"
07:29:01 [6]: ChoicePage::setupActions()::<lambda()>
    Setting texts for 0 osprober entries
07:29:01 [6]: void ChoicePage::setupActions()
    Alongside button suppressed because none can be resized.
07:29:01 [6]: void ChoicePage::updateActionChoicePreview(ChoicePage::InstallChoice)
    Updating partitioning preview widgets.
07:29:01 [6]: CalamaresUtils::GeoIP::RegionZonePair CalamaresUtils::GeoIP::splitTZString(const QString&)
    GeoIP reporting "Europe/Amsterdam"
07:29:01 [6]: void Calamares::RequirementsChecker::addCheckedRequirements(Calamares::Module*)
    Got 0 requirement results from "locale"
07:29:01 [6]: void Calamares::RequirementsChecker::addCheckedRequirements(Calamares::Module*)
    Got 0 requirement results from "localecfg"
07:29:01 [6]: void Calamares::RequirementsChecker::addCheckedRequirements(Calamares::Module*)
    Got 0 requirement results from "luksbootkeyfile"
07:29:01 [6]: void Calamares::RequirementsChecker::addCheckedRequirements(Calamares::Module*)
    Got 0 requirement results from "machineid"
07:29:01 [6]: void Calamares::RequirementsChecker::addCheckedRequirements(Calamares::Module*)
    Got 0 requirement results from "mount"
07:29:01 [6]: void Calamares::RequirementsChecker::addCheckedRequirements(Calamares::Module*)
    Got 0 requirement results from "networkcfg"
07:29:01 [6]: void Calamares::RequirementsChecker::addCheckedRequirements(Calamares::Module*)
    Got 0 requirement results from "packages"
07:29:01 [6]: void Calamares::RequirementsChecker::addCheckedRequirements(Calamares::Module*)
    Got 1 requirement results from "partition"
07:29:01 [6]: void Calamares::RequirementsChecker::addCheckedRequirements(Calamares::Module*)
    Got 0 requirement results from "securebootfix"
07:29:01 [6]: void Calamares::RequirementsChecker::addCheckedRequirements(Calamares::Module*)
    Got 0 requirement results from "securebootinstall"
07:29:01 [6]: void Calamares::RequirementsChecker::addCheckedRequirements(Calamares::Module*)
    Got 0 requirement results from "services-systemd"
07:29:01 [6]: void Calamares::RequirementsChecker::addCheckedRequirements(Calamares::Module*)
    Got 0 requirement results from "sparkyhooks"
07:29:01 [6]: void Calamares::RequirementsChecker::addCheckedRequirements(Calamares::Module*)
    Got 0 requirement results from "summary"
07:29:01 [6]: void Calamares::RequirementsChecker::addCheckedRequirements(Calamares::Module*)
    Got 0 requirement results from "umount"
07:29:01 [6]: void Calamares::RequirementsChecker::addCheckedRequirements(Calamares::Module*)
    Got 0 requirement results from "unpackfs"
07:29:01 [6]: void Calamares::RequirementsChecker::addCheckedRequirements(Calamares::Module*)
    Got 0 requirement results from "users"
07:29:01 [6]: Calamares::RequirementsList GeneralRequirements::checkRequirements()
    Need at least storage bytes: 5905580032
07:29:01 [6]: void Calamares::RequirementsChecker::reportProgress()
    Remaining modules: 1
     "welcome"
07:29:02 [6]: Calamares::RequirementsList GeneralRequirements::checkRequirements()
    Need at least ram bytes: 1073741824
07:29:02 [6]: Calamares::RequirementsList GeneralRequirements::checkRequirements()
    GeneralRequirements output:
     enoughStorage :   true
     enoughRam :   true
     hasPower :   true
     hasInternet :   true
     isRoot :   true
07:29:02 [6]: void Calamares::RequirementsChecker::addCheckedRequirements(Calamares::Module*)
    Got 6 requirement results from "welcome"
07:29:02 [6]: void Calamares::RequirementsChecker::finished()
    All requirements have been checked.
^Clive@live:~$


Erwin

Finally installed Sparky with the advanced installer.
Still other problems but will make a new post for that.

paxmark1

You have not posted yet, so   

It helps to format via xml for the forum via using the # button for long strings of machine output.

It strongly helps to eliminate dead ends and to fix the problems posted via usage of inxi.   Posting output of "inxi -b"  is one of the best little things that you can do when posting problems.
Search forum for "More info easier via inxi"    If requested -  no inxi, no help for you by  me.

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