[suggestion] new default dock

[ldm]

to replace Wbar
a simple & very light dock:  https://launchpad.net/plank

[drew]

I will second that  8) I usually replace wbar with plank anyway. Plank for those who don't know is basically a lightweight version of docky.

[pavroo]

Honestly I don't like docky, cairo-dock, not sure I will like plank :(
My drastic compromise is: remove wbar and use only one default bottom panel for every sparky spin.
What do you think?

[drew]

Your call; if you like wbar, keep it. It's your distro after all  8)

[pavroo]

Yes, but the most important point of mater is - I don't make it for myself only :)
So we could find a compromise to make you and me happy.

[ldm]

I like Wbar too, but Wbar cannot be configured as "always-on-top".
You can keep Wbar as default... no problem and everyone can install their preferred dock

[seppalta]

Wbar has 2 faults:  (1) Does not center nicely on an extended desktop dual monitor set-up;  (2)  Leaves previous background in a rotating wallpaper set-up.   See photos in http://lxlinux.com/wbar.html.  I like fbpanel simply because it reproduces the wallpaper picture in the desktop pager plugin.  Also, panels that pop-out and -about are bad for people with vertigo or tendencies to vertigo.

[ldm]

panels that pop-out and -about are bad for people with vertigo or tendencies to vertigo.

are you serious? :o
I like that effect

[grandadruss]

lxpanel ?

[seppalta]

are you serious? :o
I like that effect

Idm, apparently you do not suffer from vertigo.  Yes, I'm very serious.  Vertigo is a sensation of spinning caused by a (usually temporary)  defective physical "gyroscope" that exists in your inner ear.   Once you have experienced a few vertigo attacks, your system can become sensitive to any rapid motion around or near you, and may cause you to experience the symptoms that occur with a real  vertigo attack even though you are not having an attack.   A few minutes of a compositing window manager actively  fading, exploding, rotating, contorting, etc will set me vomiting if I don't escape quick enough.  Of course, this does not apply to wbar because I think you can easily turn-off the jump-out feature.

[drew]

Wow, that is pretty extreme. I suffer from vertigo myself (from wisdom teeth building pressure in my inner ear), but nothing as bad as that.

[Wombat]

From previous reply-

Wbar has 2 faults:  (1) Does not center nicely on an extended desktop dual monitor set-up

For dual monitor I've duplicated the icons so they appear on both monitors, with a seldom used icon in the centre  - in this config= 12345654321
and it seems to be a better setup - access from both monitors.

The other problem -

(2)  Leaves previous background in a rotating wallpaper set-up

does appear worse in the dual monitor setup tho.